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Have you (or do you know someone who has) used the Manager Tools Trinity in the position of an elementary school teacher with your students as your directs?

GlennR's picture

More often than not, i was an unmotivated student who had difficulties with science and math. Had a teacher done something like you are suggesting, I probably would have been much more motivated. With 22 or so "directs" it might be hard to do weekly, but I don't recall teachers ever initiating a conversation with me personally unless I had screwed up. 

“But there’s no substitute for getting smarter faster. And the way you get smarter is to screw around vigorously. Try stuff. See what works. See what fails miserably. Learn. Rinse. Repeat.” 

--Tom Peters, quoted in “Fast Company” Dec. 2001.


But there

s no substitute for getting smarter faster. And the way yo
u get smarter is to
screw around vigorously. Try stuff. See what works. See what
fails miserably. Learn.
Rinse. Repeat.

--
Tom Peters, quoted in

Fast Company

Dec. 2001.

But there

s no substitute for getting smarter faster. And the way yo
u get smarter is to
screw around vigorously. Try stuff. See what works. See what
fails miserably. Learn.
Rinse. Repeat.

--
Tom Peters, quoted in

Fast Company

Dec. 2001.

krod0924's picture

I think I may have to modify it a little since I will likely have 22 students (right now I only have 20 on my list). But I've been rolling the idea around in my head all summer. I have listened to the podcast for years and read Horstman's book this summer. I have no doubt one-on-one's and the feedback structure would be a fantastic use of my time. And coaching? I love that it puts the learning directly on the students. What I still need to work out ... and this is a big one ... is what will my other 19-21 first grade students be doing while I am doing a one-on-one?

I like trying stuff, seeing what works and what fails miserably. I also like learning from others and if anyone out there knows of an elementary school teacher rolling out the Manager Tools Trinity, I would love to know your experience.

mrreliable's picture

I don't know any teacher who has specifically used the Trinity, but my wife was a grade-school teacher for 30+ years and I was amazed at how insightful her thoughts were when we discussed management issues I was having at work. There are so many similarities between concepts used for effective teaching and concepts used for effective management.

krod0924's picture

I have listened to the Managers Tool podcast for a long time now, not because I was in a management position but because I have always been fascinated by the ideas. So when I started my teaching career late in life (50!), and I started reading about classroom management, I thought, "Where are the one-on-one's?" The more I know my students, or "directs," and develop a relationship with them, I believe the less behavior problems I will encounter. Further, if I used the feedback structure exactly as outlined in Horstman's book, I think there would be a very different feel in my urban public school classroom. And, if I only gave my first graders positive feedback in the beginning, as Horstman outlines, oh my! Lastly, I always read how the goal of a teacher is for the student to "own" their learning; that is exactly what the coaching aspect of the Trinity would do! Now... if only I could figure a way to delegate: maybe have the students grade? Or fill out all the state-mandated forms? :)

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Based on my teaching experience and (now) my management experience, knowing more about DISC earlier in my career would have been helpful. As such, if I were to ever return to the classroom then I would most certainly pay more attention to the individual student's tendencies.

I would encourage not viewing the students so much as directs. Instead seek to tailor responses to questions and other interactions when working with the students individually. Any podcasts on DISC in the MT series would be beneficial.

krod0924, you will be making a difference in people's lives for generations. I wish I knew this stuff 20+ years ago when I was in the classroom.

krod0924's picture

Great suggestion! Thank you for your encouragement. Peace!