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For Example,
When he wants results badly he is ready to skip process in work environment?
When he want to take action against somebody he dig into person mistakes and take the help of process to punish them.

Even after bring to his notice and his immediate boss notice nothing getting changed.

What can be done?

AManagerTool's picture

Three courses of action are possible:

1. Resign
2. Accept his behavior
3. Become his boss

Anything else is just ineffective.

HMac's picture

[quote="santoct2002"]What can be done?[/quote]

Sounds from your short description that you have a bad boss.

It's your job to manage YOUR career. Evaluate your alternatives (nicely laid out by Tool!) with your career in mind.

You can stay with a bad boss for as long as it takes to make a move to improve your career (examples would be transferring internally or moving to another company, or if you have reasonable grounds to believe that your boss will be removed, replaced, retired, etc.).

If you're staying with a bad boss for one minute longer than necessary, you're just hurting yourself and allowing unecessary stress into your life.

-Hugh

santoct2002's picture

Thanks HMac, AManagerTool.,

Choosing alternative really would be great idea, but below or the constraints that I think would be a problem.
1. Do you think in a orgainisation a bad manager can help really to find other role for his direct?
2. Will not be sound like he accepts his mistake?
3. Will the other manager ready to recruit ?
( Or)

Look for opportuntiy outside the company

Which one you prefer?

aniinl's picture

Hi santoct2002,

if I understand correctly, you spoke to your boss and nothing changed? And even your boss's boss knows and nothing changed?

I was in a situation like that for a year until I couldn't take it anymore and had a confidential conversation with HR about my boss. Maybe that would be an option for you. I wasn't aware that I could talk to HR confidentially, that's why I left it for so long (I don't like talking behind people's back that's why I didn't wanna do that even to my boss, so this was my last resource).

Be sure to have a watertight record about what happened, though, and don't just go there to complain. You need to have a case. HR needs to have a proof that something is really going on and know that you have tried to solve it in a professional way yourself first.

I had tried everything I could and only went to HR once it was affecting my health and my credibility with my team. By then I had a whole diary with incidents by month and about the conversations I had with my boss and how things changed for a few days but then went back "to normal".

We then had an (of course awkward) meeting - my boss, HR and me, but the result was that my boss improved :-) and well, that we both left the department a month later, Not sure if that was a coincidence.. ;)

Good luck, I hope things change for the better for you soon.

Anja

igniz's picture

[quote="AManagerTool"]Three courses of action are possible:

1. Resign
2. Accept his behavior
3. Become his boss

Anything else is just ineffective.[/quote]

i agree with these, plus:

4. Talk to him to confront him what's his problem (his side of view) and state your problems with him. Knowing what's his side will help you consider why is he/she acting like that in the operations.

TomW's picture

[quote="igniz"]4. Talk to him to confront him what's his problem (his side of view) and state your problems with him. Knowing what's his side will help you consider why is he/she acting like that in the operations.[/quote]

There's a pretty major assumption here: That the boss would be willing to hear this out. Not all would. Since we're talking about a bad boss here already, I doubt we're talking about a boss who wants his flaws pointed out.

It's really risky. Doing this might just get santoct2002 fired or targeted by his boss for all kinds of administrative punishment.

HMac's picture

[quote="igniz"]
4. Talk to him to confront him what's his problem (his side of view) and state your problems with him. Knowing what's his side will help you consider why is he/she acting like that in the operations.[/quote]

[list][i]"confront"[/i] ?????

[i]"what's [u]his [/u] problem"[/i] ???????[/list:u]
Yeah, good luck with that.

If you show any behavior that refects an attitude that you're "confronting" him about "his" problem, make sure to clear out your desk before you go in.

BJ_Marshall's picture

Don't manage your boss. Confronting him on what his problem is will do wonders to ruin an already strained relationship.

AManagerTool's picture

[quote="santoct2002"]Thanks HMac, AManagerTool.,

Choosing alternative really would be great idea, but below or the constraints that I think would be a problem.
1. Do you think in a orgainisation a bad manager can help really to find other role for his direct?
2. Will not be sound like he accepts his mistake?
3. Will the other manager ready to recruit ?
( Or)

Look for opportuntiy outside the company

Which one you prefer?[/quote]

Let me address this line by line.

1. A manager, good or bad, in any orgainization has no resposibility whatsoever to help his direct find another role. Some do help, many do not. It is YOUR responsibility to manage YOUR OWN CAREER.

2. See item 1. I don't think your manager is going to help you find another job.

3. Other managers will readily recruit provided of course that you are performing and that recruiting you does not damage his or her own careers. Your current boss may object, badmouth, or otherwise poison the well for you. There is no way around that.

Most people when faced with these realities make any one of the following decisions:

1. Seek employment elsewhere. Probably the best option.
2. Fight it out with your boss and HR. Pretty counterproductive. Your boss will work hard to have you fired and your HR department will do their best to protect the organization...adding pressure to get you fired...but a bit more craftily to avoid lawsuits.
3. Apply internally. Every time your resume lands an interview with another manager they have to go to your current manager for permission to interview/hire you. Guess what happens there...