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I followed your rules preparing my self evaluation. I asked an exec level person to proof it for me. They said I nailed it. Using the steps I compiled a great look at what I've done and how I met and exceeded all of my goals for last year. Of course, all the credit goes to Mark and Mike.

Here's my problem. I'm new to this level of management. I've never had to do a self evaluation in order to qualify or justify a raise. I came from a more manual labor world where more sweat meant more money.

The one thing you guys didn't talk about was how to ask for the raise. Or when to ask for it. Do you talk about it in the annual review meeting? I've got a few days before my supervisor schedules the performance review. What do I do now?

jlyons's picture

Does no answer or reply mean no one cares?

regas14's picture

jlyons,

The other way to look at it is that everyone is equally curious and awaiting responses from our gurus and hosts or that no one feels they have the experience to answer your question. Both of which describe my situation on this topic.

That being said, I seem to recall in one of the podcasts (but cannot recall which) the sentiment was expressed that asking for a raise is something that should be done rarely, if ever. In fact if memory serves me (which it doesn't always - just ask my wife) the statement was even more black and white than that.

G.R.

jlyons's picture

Thanks

cincibuckeyenut's picture

Mike and Mark are incredibly busy so they tend to post in chunks, when they have time. Some of the rest of us post on things we know or have experience on and with your situation, there might not be a lot of people with experience dealing with that. So just be patient. You won't always get 24 hour turnaround, but you will usually get a response to things posted here.

Oddly enough, I just worked with a friend on this yesterday. He is preparing for a promotion review and the process is very similar. Best advice I can give you is relisten to the preparing your resume podcast, the preparing for your review podcast, and MOST IMPORTANT, listen to the Members only Accomplishments - Connecting Resumes and Interviews podcast. Listen to that one 3-4 times. It is dead on regarding how you need to prepare/

If you are going to ask for a promotion or a raise, you better be well prepared to defend why you deserve it. That means results statements that clearly underscore your impact. And then you better make sure your impact is enough to make it clear that you do indeed deserve the raise.

Start with that and if you have more questions, come back and ask some more, we'll see where we can get you.

jlyons's picture

Actually, I didn't think Mike and Mark would answer. They've got to be far too busy. I was hoping someone like yourself would lend a word. Thanks I'm listening to the podcast episode now. I'll get back to you.

Mark's picture

We do care, AND we're traveling for clients in Europe. :lol:

First of all, are you certain that now is the time to ask for a raise? Is this normal for your org?

Unfortunately, this is too big a topic to answer briefly. Short answer is that you must find out how salaries are administered, and determine how to pitch your increase within the system.

Mark

ChrisAtWork's picture

To follow up on Mark's comment, knowing when your boss begins the salary review process is key to knowing when to discuss a raise with him. At my company the salary reviews are started a few months prior to when they are shared with employees. Ideally you would discuss a raise (with documentation to back it up) prior to that process happening. This way you aren't creating extra work for your boss nor are you creating an issue that requires extra justification through many levels of management and HR.