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Fellow M-Ters,

I turn to you again for advice as I have learned so much from you over the last two years. I am eternally grateful and try to “spread the gospel” whenever possible.

I was laid off on Thursday. It was unexpected to me and I was 60% prepared. I promise to do better next time. My question is two-fold. First, my CEO did an excellent job giving me the news. He is an articulate and persuasive leader though he does not create warm, personal relationships with staff. I would like to ask him to be a reference for me, acknowledging he knows my work from a broader company perspective versus the day-to-day knowledge of my direct supervisor (VP). During the lay-off discussion he offered to network for me, provide my resume to the Board and provide a letter of recommendation. Do you feel it is appropriate for me to ask him to be a reference whom can be called? I will also ask my VP to be a reference. Is there anything further you suggest I ask or do?

Second part – during discussions with my boss, I asked for feedback on my review. He provided me only an area to improve I had identified in my self assessment. I asked for feedback on something I had done well. He felt he should only focus on areas for improvement. Since I use these reviews in the course of preparing my resumes, cover letters and planning for interviews, I asked if I could have a copy of my review. They are normally provided mid-February. My VP told me he did not feel it would be appropriate. I was reeling from the events already and did not press further. I will be returning to the office for a day later this month and would like to ask again. Do you have any suggestions on how to do this? I will explain how I use the review and tell him he can redact any information he feels appropriate. I’m not sure how to position this because I’m not sure what his concerns are. Perhaps you have some insight.

Finally, I want to say what gift from the Universe I consider this layoff opportunity. I didn’t realize how beaten down I felt until realizing my first reaction to this news was profound relief. My excitement and enthusiasm for the future would be so much less if I had not learned so much from M&M and from you. Here’s to new beginnings.

Deborah

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Nice attitude Deborah - to new beginings. Good luck in finding another (better) position.

CEO as reference is a good thing. Cultivate the contact and confirm if you think he will do a good job for you.

VP and appriasal - he is being petty and obviously doesn't realise how important appriasals are. He may beleive you are seeking evidence for a legal challenge. I would make a direct request and copy in the CEO. You have already stated the reasoning. Perhaps make it clear that you will treat the document as commercial-in-confidence.

Chris

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Yes on the CEO.

Don't bother following up further with your ex-boss. When (and if) you get anything from him, I'll bet it won't be worth the effort you put into getting it! And given his focus on peoples' weaknesses, DON'T even think about using him as a reference (having the CEO as a reference should cover nicely). Think of this as a first step putting your ex-employer behind you. Because that's where it is: in your past.

Good luck - you'll find lots of support from the M-T forum community - I know I did!

-Hugh

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Deborah,

Yes, ask the folks you respect if they would be willing to be a reference. You are undoubtedly aware of the MT cast on references; listen to it again.

http://www.manager-tools.com/2008/07/sharing-your-references

It's not easy; fortunately, you have the resolve and the resources.

John

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Yes, get whatever help you can get from the CEO.

I would not count on the feedback or review from manager. In my experience, the only reason they would not give you a hard copy of your review is that they did not put it to paper....you don't want it after-the-fact anyway - chances are they would be less than frank.

Gather whatever references you can!

I wish you the best of luck.

-Dan

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Thanks Everyone for your responses. As always, sage advice from all. I spoke to the CEO yesterday and was given his full support as a reference. I have been home for 36 hours and have at least 15 leads to follow-up on. I'm very excited and have let everyone know I'm willing to go anywhere and do the job that needs to get done. By alerting the CEO to particular interest in work in Israel and California he has widened my "net". In the meantime, I've honed my finances to the minimum and started soliciting contract work ranging from administrative to director level in area biotech companies. Everbody always at least has filing to be done ;) I'll look forward to giving further good news in the future.

Best,

Deborah

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Deborah,

When I was in a situation like yours, I was reminded that my value and self-worth were not tied to what I did, but who I was in my being and my purpose. Your outlook and positive attitude are inspiring. Thank you for this post.

-Davis