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Hi all,

I've been at the present role for the past three years and I have mostly lost interest in it. I want to change direction and move to a different position and likely even company/location.

I am contemplating whether I should let my managers know about it in advance or just drop the bombshell after I've closed a deal with another employer.
What do you suggest?

Here's some relevant data on my situation:

1. Working for a Fortune 100 company as a first line manager in engineering

2. Tired of the position, the location and even some of the people around me. 

3. I'm doing a good job, showing satisfaction, my boss really likes me and naively thinks I'm quite happy

4. Not really interested in any role in our present department (i.e. none of the "natural" promotions appeal to me). 

5. Interested in changing direction to something with more marketing and customer orientation. I gently expressed this desire to my boss a few times in the past but it doesn't seem to make any difference (i.e. never heard back)

6. I am secretly interviewing at other places for interesting positions of the type I want. It's going well (many thanks to the interviewing series). I'm confident that I can find a suitable position/offer at another company anytime within the next 6 months and possibly much earlier. When that happens, I'll take it with both hands

7. As long as I don't have another job, I'd much rather work at my present place than stay at home (+ the pay is good).

8. I am really valuable to my boss and company. If I leave on a short term notice (i.e. < 1 quarter) it would leave a huge gap. The successor I fostered (my direct) was just promoted by my boss without giving me much of a say. None of my other directs are interested in a management position. This also means that until further notice I am "stuck" in my present position. That's a great incentive for me to leave this company and let them deal with the results of their poor talent management.

 

 

jdbrown1998's picture

I would start by saying that nothing in your new job search is guaranteed!   So until you have accepted an offer I would not tell anyone at your current place of employment that you were applying for other jobs.  Basically, I think there are two ways to analyze your position that both lead to this conclusion:

1) Your boss is as naive as you think and really does like you.  You tell him, he feels betrayed and you end up paying for it either in lost good will or outright loss of your job.

2) The more likely scenario is that they already know you are not completely happy and this would confirm it and since you are actively seeking outside employment and a flight risk they will now begin to limit their exposure through reassignment etc.  Remember as Mark and Mike always say - You are not that smart and they are not that dumb.  Listen from experience of having a job that I did not enjoy I have to say it is almost impossible to hide it no matter how well you think you are!

So there are couple pod casts on how to keep your job search private.  The best one is in career tools on 3/1/2012 - Keeping your Search Confidential.

As you get closer to the time to leave I would listen to the pod casts on how to resign.  They are in the manager tools and career tools starting on 7/24/2006.  It is a series of three casts.  

-JDB

 

markwalsh99's picture
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As per JDB's comments, no, don't.

As Mark H. says, "Until you've got something, you've got nothing". Therefore, you're at your current employer until you're not. If you declare your intentions until you've accepted another offer, again as JDB says, your boss will feel betrayed. Rightly or wrongly, that could backfire on you. You may want to do this with the best of intentions, but those are what the road to hell is paved with.

Ultimately, people are free to move. If your employer valued you more, that might be reflected in a longer notice period, in order to allow them to replace you and provide a handover period. However, a longer notice period would probably complicate your job search as you may not be able to accept a particular offer. Only really senior people have long notice periods. And, frankly, once you have moved on to your next job, your previous employer's issues in replacing you are not your problem.

If it's any consolation, I have struggled with this issue "intellectually" as it were, for many years. Only listening to the appropriate podcasts have I been able to resolve this in my own mind.

Mark

Aaronsmith's picture

i can tell you management that you  want to leave ..   

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dhdvikas's picture

ya why should you not tell them . i think you should do it. because every problem .can be solve when we tell someone .

naraa's picture
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 The question to ask yourself to solve the dilema in your mind tell or not to tell is: "what good will it bring to both of us me telling my boss i want to leave?". It doesn't bring any good to either of you.  Your boss sees things from a different perspective of yours, you telling him you want to leave doesn't help because is not that He can replace you because you haven't made the decision yet, in fact you may not actually leave. It is a lot harder to manage someone you know will leave rather then someone you can plan for the future.  If you are bored now át. Work you are about to become more bored if you tell.

That said what i believe you can tell or rather ask is with respect to your opportunities for growth in the future.  Your assessment of the lack of talent management may be your view of it, somebody higher up in the organization may have plans for you but you don't know it yet.  Sometimes because there is a communication problem, sometimes because they don't want to create expectations, sometimes because they want to acess your commitment to the company.  Telling your boss you want more to do át. Work or do something differently, or know where you can expect to be in a few years is not telling your boss you want to live.  Here He can actually do something about it, He has át. Least the sense of having some control.  And who knows you could be surprised.

I always like to think that although employeers and employees like to think and plan for a long term relationship, one does really only get paid for the monthly job.  Át. The end of the month neither owns anything to the other, other than the usual one months notice which could be more or less Depending on the situation and negotiation. 

At least i haven't seen anybody get paid for future potential. People get paid for the results they deliver.